Testwiki:Property proposal/Base Units
Motivation
Units are important in many fields and it is important to have some kind of structure to help add relationships between units. The more structured knowledge there is for units the more useful quantities can become and be better used together. -I is chan (talk) 01:54, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
- Template:Comment It seems like Template:P is currently sometimes used for that, e.g. Template:Statement. What is your motivation for introducing a new property instead of using Template:P? --Push-f (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Template:P doesn't seem like a proper use case for this because for Template:Statement technically Template:Q is being removed from the unit rather than being "a part of" it, perhaps it could have a negative Template:P quantifier? -I is chan (talk) 12:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- I think Template:P fits fine. Units that are composed of several other units are also called "compound units". E.g. [1] says "speed is a compound unit as it is defined using both distance and time". So the other units are all part of the definition. --Push-f (talk) 20:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Template:P doesn't seem like a proper use case for this because for Template:Statement technically Template:Q is being removed from the unit rather than being "a part of" it, perhaps it could have a negative Template:P quantifier? -I is chan (talk) 12:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Template:S Template:P shouldn't be used for this. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 15:59, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Why not? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 20:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Template:Re can you explain why you think it should not be used like this? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:35, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Ping, would you like to give your opinion? Template:Re could you please clarify the comments above. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 06:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Re can you explain why you think it should not be used like this? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:35, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Why not? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 20:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Template:Comment What should a qualifier stating the exponent of the unit be called? -I is chan (talk) 19:20, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Template:Pro --Gymnicus (talk) 08:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Template:S, an important property for science.--Arbnos (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Oppose in its current form. This property is not well-defined. For example, the unit Template:Q has several possible definitions. You could avoid this by only allowing the SI base units as values, but then it would be essentially the same as Template:P. It also wouldn't allow you to establish a link between Template:Q and Template:Q. I think a better alternative is Template:Statement or something akin to:
Template:Statement+ Template:Statement+
- Dexxor (talk) 17:24, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Template:P is not of type item, so not the same. Midleading (talk) 04:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Re Template:Done as Template:P. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 06:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)