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=== {{TranslateThis | anchor = en
| en = Legend
|ru = Легенда
|he=מקרא
}} ===
{{Property proposal
|status			= not done
|description		= {{TranslateThis
| en = Commons dataset containing symbols used in formula or diagram
| ru = Набор данных с Викисклада с символами, используемыми в формуле или на диаграмме
 }}
|subject item           = <!-- элемент о понятии, соответствующем данному свойству (если применимо); например: элемент ORCID (Q51044) для свойства ORCID (P496) -->
|infobox parameter	= <!-- Параметры шаблона-карточки, если есть; например, ''население'' в [[:ru:Шаблон:НП]] -->
|datatype		= tabular
|domain			= <!-- область применения: элементы, к которым применимо это свойство -->
|allowed values		= /.*\.tab$/
|source			= {{Q|565}}
|example		= {{Q|11518}} → {{P|2534}} → [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/data:Sandbox/Ignatus/Pithagor.tab Sandbox/Ignatus/Pithagor.tab]
|planned use            = Qualify all {{P|2534}} in an appropriate way
|formatter URL		= https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/data:$1
|see also               = <!-- other, related properties -->
|filter			= <!-- (образец: проверка на правильность 7-разрядного числа может быть осуществлена фильтром правок [[Special:AbuseFilter/17]]) -->
|robot and gadget jobs	= Existence of Commons page must be checked
|subpage		= Legend
|topic			= generic
}}

;Motivation

Currently, the property {{P|2534}} contains inconsistent information: formulae without a legend are just pretty pictures with, formally, no direct meaning. Some parameters of formulae don't have any standard symbols or have multiple traditions, each of which is not comonly known. For data consistency, we need to make legends for them, as well as for diagrams. Current use of {{P|527}} is definitely a bad choice - it must describe object, not its formula; then, symbols describe item properties (<math>a</math> in {{Q|11518}} means length of catet, not catet) and often are too special to have not a natural language definition. And we don't even have multilingual texts here for this purpose yet; and the overall data structure to qualify a formula seems to need qualifiers on qualifiers which is not even planned. Luckily, now we can store [[mw:Help:Tabular data|datasets]] on WM Commons which can be accessed from wikis with <syntaxhighlight lang="Lua" inline>mw.ext.data.get("Example.tab")</syntaxhighlight>. Example of such a dataset for <math>a^2+b^2=c^2</math> I've made in [[commons:Data:Sandbox/Ignatus/Pithagor.tab]] [[User:Ignatus|Ignatus]] ([[User talk:Ignatus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:32, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

;{{int:Talk}}

* {{Ping|Ignatus}} Note that formatter URLs only work with external-ID datatype properties. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 21:33, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
* {{comment}} Datatype would probably need to be whatever comes out of [[phab:T151334]]. <br/>--- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 13:17, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
* {{comment}} Personally, I prefer if the links would be kept in Wikidata. (Previous discussion at [[Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2016/12#Symbol_definitions_with_math_datatype]]). <br/>--- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 13:17, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
* {{support}} I like this approach. It would be nice if there was some way to more tightly integrate the commons tables with wikidata though... [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:45, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
** I don't quite see how this would be happening anytime soon. <br/>--- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 16:49, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
* {{oppose}} it's not really clear how they should remain in sync either. <br/>--- [[User talk:Jura1|Jura]] 17:03, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
* {{O}}Given that this is about the commons integration, I think we should wait for more developmental work to be done instead of trying to fix the subject witht he available tools. [[User:ChristianKl|ChristianKl]] ([[User talk:ChristianKl|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:05, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

{{not done}} Closed for now. --[[User:Micru|Micru]] ([[User talk:Micru|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:49, 24 April 2017 (UTC)